North Wales Coast Railway Notice Board 01 July 2024


Rheilffordd arfordir gogledd Cymru: Hysbysfwrdd

  01 July 2024

67 008 at the former Bethesda Junction, 24 June

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Forthcoming events

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Saturday 6 July Railway Touring Company North Wales Express London Euston  - Llandudno (Steam Crewe - Llandudno)

6-7 July Llangollen Railway Classic Transport Weekend

6-7 July Talyllyn Railway 'Anything Goes Gala'

Sunday 14 July - The North Wales Coast Express. Liverpool Lime Street to Holyhead (via Warrington Bank Quay). Railway Touring Group, WCRC Steam TBC.

Tuesday 16 July Midland Pullman  Holyhead - Paignton

Wednesday 17 July Statesman Chester-le-Street - Blaenau Ffestiniog

Saturday 20 July Northern Belle Hull to Llandudno Junction with off train options to Llandudno, Bodnant Gardens and the Penderryn Distillery.

20-21 July Talyllyn Railway Awdry Extravaganza

Saturday 27 July    Midland Pullman    Crewe -  Paignton      

August 2024

3-4 August Llangollen Railway 1960s Weekend

Saturday 3 August - Rail Excursion to the City of Chester. Newcastle to Chester (via York). Bishop Trains. HST to be confirmed.

Wednesday 14 August    Statesman    Telford Central - Carlisle
pickups Shrewsbury, Gobowen, Chirk, Wrexham General, Chester, Frodsham, Warrington BQ

24-26 August Bala Lake Railway August Steam Gala

24-25 August   Model Railway Exhibition  in Machynlleth in support of the Corris Railway

30 August - 1 September - Welshpool & Llanfair Light Railway -  Steam Gala with model railway exhibition

September 2024

Wednesday 4 September  Statesman High Wycombe -     Blaenau Ffestiniog

Thursday 5 September Pathfinder Tours The Cambrian Coast Express Bristol - Pwllheli

Friday 6 September Clwyd Railway Circle The Denbigh, Ruthin and Corwen Railway in the Vale of Clwyd -  Fiona Gale

12 September   Pathfinder  Cambrian Coast Express Swindon   - Pwllheli

14-15 September Welsh Highland Railway Super Power Weekend celebrating the successful restoration of the NG15 locomotive.

Sunday 15 September Steam Dreams 'Welsh Dragon' steam-hauled London Paddington - Shrewsbury, then diesel through to Pwllheli.  For more on this and this and the next two entries see the Steam Dreams website.
Wednesday 18 September  Steam Dreams 'Welsh Dragon' steam hauled Bangor - Crewe, then diesel to Cardiff via the Heart of Wales line
Thursday 19 September - Steam Dreams 'Welsh Dragon'  steam hauled Cardiff to London Paddington via Gloucester and the Golden Valley line

Saturday 21 September - Northern Belle    Telford - Carlisle pickups Shrewsbury,  Wrexham General, Chester.

21-22 September Bala Model Railway Show Ysgol Godre’r Berwyn Secondary School, Ffrydan Road, Bala, Gwynedd LL23 7RU. 10:00 - 16:00 (Bus link to Bala Lake Railway station)

Opening times: 10.00-16.00 on both Saturday and Sunday.10.00-16.00 on both Saturday and Sunday.

Saturday 28 September UK Railtours London - Chester 'Our tour takes an interesting route from London to Chester and Llandudno Junction where we plan to access the Glan Conwy freight sidings.'

October 2024

Friday 4 October Clwyd Railway Circle Wrexham’s Second Railway Mania -  David Parry

4-6 October  Ffestiniog Railway Bygoneds weekend

5-6 October Llangollen Railway Heritage Railcar Weekend

November 2024

Friday 1 November Clwyd Railway Circle  Chinese Steam in 2001 and 2003  - Phil Thomas

December 2024

Tuesday 10 December  Midland Pullman from Holyhead to Edinburgh Waverley - Edinburgh Christmas Pullman

14-15 December Manchester Model Railway Society -  The Christmas Model Railway Show. The Sugden Centre, Sidney Street, Manchester

North Wales Coast Railway website created and compiled by Charlie Hulme

Heading for the hills: the Three Peaks by Train on 27 June (Gary Thomas)

News Pictures

On 26 June 67 013 on 1W96 17:14 Cardiff Central to Holyhead at Flint, 93 minutes late due to 1W23 16:45 Cardiff Central to Crewe (hauled by 67 022) failing at Abergavenny (Tim Rogers).

On 27 June, 197 111 on 1H94 17:42 Llandudno to Manchester Airport approaches Chester on a section the weedkiller train seems to have missed (Tim Rogers).

70 810 crosses the canal at Chester on 27 June with 6J37 12:52 Carlisle Yard Colas Rail to Chirk Kronospan Colas Rail. (Tim Rogers).

Hargreave (between Crewe and Chester): 805 012 and  805 001 on 1D91 17:02 London Euston to Holyhead on 27 June, 26 minutes late,

DVT 82227 leads 1W96 17:14 Cardiff Central to Holyhead past Mold Junction,  67 014 propelling (Tim Rogers).

On 27 June passing Hargrave, the first leg of the 'Three Peaks by Train' charity train, 1Z50 19:14 Crewe - Bangor for the passengers to take a run up and down Snowdon. Leading was 47 593 Galloway Princess ...

... and on the rear,  57 311 wearing an LNWR-style black livery reminiscent of a scheme used by Peter Waterman, who in the 1990s attempted to do what Locomotive Services are doing today (Tim Rogers).

Rhyl (Ivor Bufton).

Pensarn (Gary Thomas).

Rhyl (Ivor Bufton).

From our archive, 47 705 Guy Fawkes, pictured by Peter Hanson at the Crewe Railfair in 1995.  The loco name was significant;  Mr Waterman was unhappy with the Government; he seems to have bought British Rail's Charter division expecting that he would have no private competition.

Peter Basterfield's view

On 26 June 805012 at Gypsy Corner with 1V19 Holyhead - Euston ...

... and 67 020 0n the rear of the lunchtime Holyhead - Chester, Passengers for Cardiff transferred to 197 017 at Chester/

Monday evening at Aber on 24 June with unidentified 67 on the train from Cardiff.

Midland Pullman at Pen-y-Clip, 22 June.Crewe - Holyhead - Carlisle: a  507 mile round trip via the Settle and Carlisle and back via Cumbrian Coast.

Empty stock Pullman to LSL Crewe passing Llanfairfechan on 23 June.

Class 37 news

More about DRS and their sale Class 37/4 locos. Some new owners are: 37 407  to Europhoenix, 37 419 and 37 422 to Harry Needle. 
Most interesting  is that 37 424 and 37 425 have gone to Meteor Power,  'an innovative company specialising in low carbon powertrains and control systems'. They have converted a Class 08 to work on batteries, and are working (very slowly) on a Class 37, 37 207, which belongs to a preservation group. 

37 425 (minus nameplates which are to be / have been auctioned) appeared at an East Lancashire Railway at 27 June,  said to be loaned from HNRC. There is some controversy about this Meteor Power company, and it's acquisition of the locos but we won't go into it here because it's not clear. Picture by Greg Mape.

From Dave Sallery's archive

37 885 on test returns to Crewe through Abergele, 14 October 1988.

45 108 on a Trans Pennine service near Prestatyn, 15 November 1984

47 199 with the Trafford Park - Holyhead Freightliner passes Prestatyn on 7 August 1984.

47 351 with empty OTA log carriers at Penyffordd, 20 October 1992.

From Richard Snook's archive

Flint, July 1982. 40 177 on Amlwch - Ellesmere Port acid / chlorine tanks.

Rhyl,  9 July 85: 25 278 on container flats.

Flint, 14 June 1985: 33 013 14:17 Bangor - Cardiff.

Rhyl,  17 August 1984: : 40 135 7F18 Amlwch - Ellesmere Port chemical tanks.

Looking back: Southport part 1 - with David Pool

I had got a Vito B camera for Christmas 1959, so on 5 January 1960 having loaded it with a 10ASA Kodachrome film I went to Southport in search of some steam.  One of my favourite locations has been the long footbridge from London Street on the East side of Southport Chapel Street Station, and I have seldom been disappointed.  On this occasion the station pilot was an Aspinall 2-4-2T 50781, soon to be withdrawn, and the sunshine in January was very welcome.

A few hundred yards from the long footbridge, another footbridge crossed the lines to Wigan and Preston, giving a view of Southport shed 27C in the distance.  A shot from this footbridge on 18 April 1960 shows Black 5 45061 working the 10.00 Southport to Manchester, about to take the direct line through St Lukes Station.  The electrified lines on the right went as far as Crossens on the West Lancs line to Preston, which closed in 1964.  Some trains to Wigan took the electrified lines as far as the triangle at Meols Cop, then passed through Meols Cop Station on a line which once continued to Downholland and the junction with the CLC at Altcar, but now rejoined the Wigan line.  In 1960 there was a level crossing at Blowick on the direct line to Wigan, but this was a traffic bottleneck, and in 1965 the line through St Lukes Station and Blowick was closed, with all Wigan trains now routed via Meols Cop. 

Southport was once a favourite destination for the special trains from the Lancashire mill towns which ran during the annual holiday weeks.  The number of platforms at Southport Chapel Street station were supplemented by more platforms on the North side of the station, which were denoted the London Steet Excursion Platforms, the entrance and exit to these platforms being in London Street and not Chapel Street.  A Standard Class 4MT 75017 was leaving the main station on 18 April 1960, but I had not noted its destination, although it was probably Preston. 

Southport shed 27C closed in 1966, the site consequently becoming neglected and partly derelict.  Members of a Southport transport society decided it would be an appropriate location for a transport museum, to be called Steamport, and after successful fund raising acquired what was left of the buildings in 1971.  Two locomotives Lucy and Efficient were loaned by the Liverpool Locomotive Preservation Group – these two locomotives have been used on various “Docker” Railtours on Merseyside. 

My first visit to Steamport was on 25 August 1975, and in steam on that day was Peckett 1999 (1942) on loan from the K&WVR.  This was particularly interesting to me, since 30 or so years earlier I had lived in Southport, and as a child often wanted to see the nearest steam locomotive, which happened to be No.1999 working from Blowick sidings to Southport Gas Works along Crowland Street.  At the time I was mildly disappointed, since although 1999 was in LMS red, the number was not in my 1942 Ian Allan ABC of LMS Locomotives, so it was not a number I could cross off…

Hudswell Clarke 750 (1906) was originally named Waleswood, and rebuilt in 1930, returning to service in Yorkshire collieries.  Withdrawn in 1962. it moved into preservation with the name Samantha.  On 25 August 1975 it was the oldest locomotive at Steamport, and giving brake van rides.  Subsequently it regained the name Waleswood, and after boiler problems in 1980 it moved to a number of preserved railways where eventually it was returned to steam.  It is reported as being at Peak Rail in 2024.  

My next visit to Steamport was on 6 October 1979, when Avonside 1568 Lucy was giving brake van rides.  Built in 1909, Lucy worked in the Widnes dock system until retirement in 1971, when it joined Efficient in store at Seacombe.

The main building on 24 June 1984 was less full than might have been expected.  Peckett 1999 was in front of the two car Class 502 units M28381M/M29896M. 

Two mainline diesels were outside the main building on that occasion.  24 081 was one of the last Class 24s to be withdrawn from BR service, and D1048 Western Lady was making a rare visit away from the Western Region, although it had been built at Crewe.
The steam locomotive visible in the shot was Fitzwilliam, Hunslet 1954 (1939), which had been Kinsley at South Kirby Colliery near Barnsley, but renamed at Steamport when the saddle tank was found to have come from another locomotive named  Fitzwilliam.  Many of the steam locomotives at Steamport were moved to the Ribble Steam Railway when Steamport closed in 1999, the site becoming part of the Central 12 Shopping Park.  I am grateful that the long footbridge still exists, and will feature again in  part 2 of my Southport images. 

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